[Jacob]

Blame lindsey for blowing up on me

Without her I didn't have rachel I only had one side to work with

[Lindsey]

Why does she get a $100? Lmao geez. I can't.

[James Zinkand]

Well Shirin won a $100 ..... How does everyone from Rhodes cast feel about this?

I can’t believe that after all the shit we all put up with on OG Kameiros, Shirin is the last one standing. I can’t. 

Remember Naseer?  Pepperidge Farm remembers.

[Lindsey]

Blame lindsey for blowing up on me

Without her I didn't have rachel I only had one side to work with

Why does everyone like to blame me:teary:

[Erika]

Why does she get a $100? Lmao geez. I can't.

That’s prob why she voted me out.  I don’t really care, she literally got gang banged this entire season.

[Jay]

Petition for final 3 Edge of Extinction 

[Ricard]

Well Shirin won a $100 ..... How does everyone from Rhodes cast feel about this?

I can’t believe that after all the shit we all put up with on OG Kameiros, Shirin is the last one standing. I can’t. 

Remember Naseer?  Pepperidge Farm remembers.

#neverforget

[Erika]

I do apologize for that because I won't lie your mistrust for him premerge made me question him ALOT MORE... but after speaking to Tyler and Shirin especially my views amd perception of what happened to Hali had changed because I to was shocked Carolyn went and then Hali so I assumed Tyler had joined the guys of Crete.... but Shirin and I were super close since Day1 so I was pretty shocked she flipped on me in the revote.... because before there was ever a Duo of Lindsey and will or #TeamRudy.... there was the NINJAS 🥷 ME AND SHIRIN ..... But yea soo I was pretty shocked but idk I sucked at this game I realise now BAD AF

 

Hmm, well you kept up appearances well, Will haha. I probably should have mistrusted you more overall but I just didn't. I was pretty convinced that you and me were rock solid. And yeah, believe me I was just as shocked as you about the Carolyn and Hali votes. Carolyn first because she and I had been on the same tribe the *entire* game up to that point. She was *very* difficult to communicate with simply because she was not online often or for long, but we defo trusted each other the most at that point. I wanted very much to keep Carolyn and Hali (and Shirin) in the game as long as possible which is why I was so disappointed by the Taylor/Jess flip. It made perfect sense for them I won't deny, but it put me in a rough spot. And tbh, I *was* trying like crazy to build bonds with all of the Crete boys to survive that tribe. And I believe I did with Wendell and Taylor. We even discussed forming a secret alliance of 4 reps from each OG tribe: Wendell, Taylor, me, and Erika, thinking that everyone was so focused on the tribal lines or even the game lines, that an alliance like that would *always* know what was happening. I *still* think it was a great idea if we actually all trusted each other enough to pull it off. Unfortunately we didn't. And we could also not agree on who to target. Lol. Perhaps because I was unwilling to say we should target Shirin first. Anyway, just spilling all the tea now. Why not? But yeah, one of the things I have woulda coulda shoulda'd for awhile now is whether or not aligning with the Crete boys officially on Zakros would have done anything more for my game. That was always within the realm of possibility, at least for me. 

Btw, weren't all 3 of us the ninjas? Lol I thought we all basically bonded individually and together at the same time. Doesn't matter really, but j/w were you more loyal to Shirin or me? I admit I was more personally loyal to Shirin but you were literally both my top allies, at least in my mind. My OGs. 

I can speak a bit more to the Zakros 3.0 game (considering the F4 is all from this tribe). There was a lot of talk on the previous tribes about how many Maus players were still in the game and we knew if there was a merge, we'd all be fucked. At the swap, Jess and I connected with Tyler, Hali and Shirin right away, which was really awesome and in hindsight where I might have fucked up - could have gone into that merge with an ally in Lindsey, instead of an enemy lol.

But I was too tight with Wendell and Jess, so my mission was to get the 3 of us to merge and chip away at Maus.  Since I never could see a world where Jessica and Stephanie could work together, the best chance here was to vote Stephanie out and appear loyal to Tyler and Hali (sorry), and then have the upper hand in the next vote. This was probably where Wendell was the weakest (other then his OG tribe) and presumably at the bottom and I was able to lock him down as a strong ally by assuring him that with Stephanie gone, we could get Crete back together + Erika to start evening up the playing field for the merge.

Carolyn was MIA for the entire Zakros 3.0, which made it SUPER easy for us to just pin it on activity. None of us factored in Jess not voting in time and forcing the 4-4 tie, then Erika went AWF on Hali for targeting Wendell and Jess (which of course Hali said that, she wasn't going to tell Erika that she was the vote). Jess made it back in time for the revote and Carolyn goes home.

The next vote was purely idol paranoia, we figured that IF Tyler had the idol, we needed to give a decoy name. I believe it was Erika that led the charge on Hali from the previous night and she was telling Crete that Hali and Lindsey were too tight. So we told Tyler and Hali that the vote was Shirin and voted the opposite, just in case an idol was played. Wendell and I really wanted this vote to be Tyler, but we gave this vote to Erika to build on that loyalty.

Turns out that didn't work if Erika went running to Tyler immediately after to pin the next vote on Jess.  Now, that could have just been Erika trying to say the right thing, because there was never any talk about splitting the vote if we went back. So as long as we still had Bret (and I felt like I did), it would have been 4-3 for Tyler.  However, we really didn't want to go back to tribal because I felt close to everyone on the tribe at that point.

Tyler - Wendell and I REALLY wanted to make that OGx4 alliance work. He and I really saw the benefit in that alliance, but Erika was so skeptical about it for some reason - which makes no sense, because if she was working with you to flip on Jess, why wasn't she more receptive to it? I just don't understand Erika's game.

Overall, Wendell started Zakros 3.0 off reallllly low and then worked his way up. Erika played the game like she has the entire season... like a chaotic little weasel (in the most loving way possible haha). Shirin existed. Bret was always so confusing.

I thought we were splitting the vote?  I told Wendell that we needed to vote Jessica, and he said he didn’t want to lose you.  That’s when  I suggested a vote split and he said that if I voted Jessica with Tyler and Shirin, he’d be able to keep his hands clean.  So, the plan was it to be 3-2-2 and Wendell being shocked after the vote.

[Erika]

Wendell pretending to be shocked that is.

[Taylor]

we could relive every move for eternity, but I would have never fallen for a split, you and Bret were impossible to get on the same page that it would have been too risky to split a vote. You would have had to make that move with Wendell or Bret as a locked vote for Jess. Who knows at the end of the day haha.

[Tyler]

we could relive every move for eternity, but I would have never fallen for a split, you and Bret were impossible to get on the same page that it would have been too risky to split a vote. You would have had to make that move with Wendell or Bret as a locked vote for Jess. Who knows at the end of the day haha.

Glad we never tested the theory :crine:

[Erika]

we could relive every move for eternity, but I would have never fallen for a split, you and Bret were impossible to get on the same page that it would have been too risky to split a vote. You would have had to make that move with Wendell or Bret as a locked vote for Jess. Who knows at the end of the day haha.

Yeah, I would’ve been shocked if Tyler had went next.  I actually approached him about voting Jessica straight up, and he’s the one who suggested a split and then he’d feign ignorance after Jessica left.  But, kinda glad we never found out.  

[Erika]

I’m disgusted seeing Shirin and Bret still there!!!! That’s annoying me more than even getting voted out.  I did like them as people though, but their game was just so annoyinggggggg.  Unlike Shirin, however, I think Bret believes he played a good game.

[Tyler]

I’m disgusted seeing Shirin and Bret still there!!!! That’s annoying me more than even getting voted out.  I did like them as people though, but their game was just so annoyinggggggg.  Unlike Shirin, however, I think Bret believes he played a good game.

Go onnnnn 

[Erika]

This makes me so happy and further proves the point that Erika was playing the game we all said we wanted to play, but weren't low-key enough to pull off. 

I agree her positioning was very good. I’d also like to note I just liked Erika as a person as well it wasn’t just purely strategic and gamebotty. I do think though that Wendell has played a better game, more actively. BUT I would still consider voting for both of them should they get there together. I think we’ll be seeing one of them here tomorrow however.

It seems to me like Erika had a lot more adversity to overcome, versus Wendell who seemed to be coasting for a good portion of the beginning of the merge. But I'm also biased after what Genie, Erika, and I had to go through on OG Kameiros. I think that's why I loved playing with Lindsey so much, it reminded so much of the chaos that was the first 10 days of the game.

The most adversity was what I went through on that swapped Zakros tribe.  I was a target as soon as I stepped there and surprised I made it out alive.

[Taylor]

I agree her positioning was very good. I’d also like to note I just liked Erika as a person as well it wasn’t just purely strategic and gamebotty. I do think though that Wendell has played a better game, more actively. BUT I would still consider voting for both of them should they get there together. I think we’ll be seeing one of them here tomorrow however.

It seems to me like Erika had a lot more adversity to overcome, versus Wendell who seemed to be coasting for a good portion of the beginning of the merge. But I'm also biased after what Genie, Erika, and I had to go through on OG Kameiros. I think that's why I loved playing with Lindsey so much, it reminded so much of the chaos that was the first 10 days of the game.

The most adversity was what I went through on that swapped Zakros tribe.  I was a target as soon as I stepped there and surprised I made it out alive.

I think this was all paranoia, you were never a target for me, Wendell or Bret. In fact, we wanted/needed your help to get out Maus. It’s like you had Kam PTSD this entire season

[Tyler]

It seems to me like Erika had a lot more adversity to overcome, versus Wendell who seemed to be coasting for a good portion of the beginning of the merge. But I'm also biased after what Genie, Erika, and I had to go through on OG Kameiros. I think that's why I loved playing with Lindsey so much, it reminded so much of the chaos that was the first 10 days of the game.

The most adversity was what I went through on that swapped Zakros tribe.  I was a target as soon as I stepped there and surprised I made it out alive.

I think this was all paranoia, you were never a target for me, Wendell or Bret. In fact, we wanted/needed your help to get out Maus. It’s like you had Kam PTSD this entire season

I don't think it was total paranoia lol. I feel like you were definitely on my, Hali, and Shirin's radars the moment we swapped... I think we all assumed you would vote with the Crete people. And we weren't wrong lol.

[Jay]

Main Questions I'm thinking of asking so people don't duplicate if they want to avoid it

Wendell

Wow did you account for people playing optimally or non-optimally for themselves within the game? At any stage.

Shirin

Explain times in the game when you proactively and decisively brought up your own strategic ideas to set up a vote or a move that helped your game. Also, if you have time, elaborate on the decision not to respond to me at all at the final 5. Whether through whisper or before tribal.

Bret

Please help to clarify to me and the jury, why you feel like lies helped you in the game and why you feel they were necessary?



 

[Ricard]

I’m disgusted seeing Shirin and Bret still there!!!! That’s annoying me more than even getting voted out.  I did like them as people though, but their game was just so annoyinggggggg.  Unlike Shirin, however, I think Bret believes he played a good game.

So are you saying Shirin knows she didn’t play a good game

[Jay]

I’m disgusted seeing Shirin and Bret still there!!!! That’s annoying me more than even getting voted out.  I did like them as people though, but their game was just so annoyinggggggg.  Unlike Shirin, however, I think Bret believes he played a good game.

So are you saying Shirin knows she didn’t play a good game

I feel like Shirin was a lot more humble and self-aware about it, whereas Bret kinda had like a smug vibe about him a lot of the time? Like he was truly deceiving or 'playing' us? That's the vibe I got anyway.