Stranded in Aegean Sea

Any pros, cons, whatever you wanna rant about with Shirin's game put it here

Shirin has been an ally of *mine* since basically day 1, but I have been waiting for her to prove herself as a contender since the day I left. I am emotionally in her corner, as a friend, but as a player and juror, she is not likely to receive my vote unless somehow this “ultimate goat” status was somehow a deliberate strategy from the get… I value my vote as a juror and I want to reward the best player. But we all know that does not *appear* to be Shirin at all…

Tyler wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 12:47:57 am Shirin has been an ally of *mine* since basically day 1, but I have been waiting for her to prove herself as a contender since the day I left. I am emotionally in her corner, as a friend, but as a player and juror, she is not likely to receive my vote unless somehow this “ultimate goat” status was somehow a deliberate strategy from the get… I value my vote as a juror and I want to reward the best player. But we all know that does not *appear* to be Shirin at all…

Ricard wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:38:18 am

Tyler wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 12:47:57 am Shirin has been an ally of *mine* since basically day 1, but I have been waiting for her to prove herself as a contender since the day I left. I am emotionally in her corner, as a friend, but as a player and juror, she is not likely to receive my vote unless somehow this “ultimate goat” status was somehow a deliberate strategy from the get… I value my vote as a juror and I want to reward the best player. But we all know that does not *appear* to be Shirin at all…

I would be stunned if it ever appeared that way. 

The biggest issue I have with Shirin’s name is that I know a lot of us invested a lot of time  into this game, whereas she did not. And I don’t see how that can be rewarded, especially on such a huge season. 

I will say, I’m more willing to hear Shirin’s pitch than others, she does have some redeeming qualities. First of all, when she was on, she was quite likeable, although probably not as likeable as someone like Wendell. But also I felt like she had GOOD reads on the game, for example the f8 round calling my bluff on the Wendell decoy. But, the f6 round from a strategic level she should’ve gone after Wendell or Erika over Jacob. I also feel like she kept her options open throughout the game and was approachable. HOWEVER, I feel like she also had no individual agency, but rather guided agency. Never did she approach me with any ideas and only when ideas were brought up to her were they discussed or a possibility with her. Also definitely both the presence at tribal and just in general wasn’t there for Shirin, as Ricard mentioned.

Tyler wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 12:47:57 am Shirin has been an ally of *mine* since basically day 1, but I have been waiting for her to prove herself as a contender since the day I left. I am emotionally in her corner, as a friend, but as a player and juror, she is not likely to receive my vote unless somehow this “ultimate goat” status was somehow a deliberate strategy from the get… I value my vote as a juror and I want to reward the best player. But we all know that does not *appear* to be Shirin at all…

Jay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:54:04 am I will say, I’m more willing to hear Shirin’s pitch than others, she does have some redeeming qualities. First of all, when she was on, she was quite likeable, although probably not as likeable as someone like Wendell. But also I felt like she had GOOD reads on the game, for example the f8 round calling my bluff on the Wendell decoy. But, the f6 round from a strategic level she should’ve gone after Wendell or Erika over Jacob. I also feel like she kept her options open throughout the game and was approachable. HOWEVER, I feel like she also had no individual agency, but rather guided agency. Never did she approach me with any ideas and only when ideas were brought up to her were they discussed or a possibility with her. Also definitely both the presence at tribal and just in general wasn’t there for Shirin, as Ricard mentioned.

 

Lindsey wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:13:02 am

Jay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:54:04 am I will say, I’m more willing to hear Shirin’s pitch than others, she does have some redeeming qualities. First of all, when she was on, she was quite likeable, although probably not as likeable as someone like Wendell. But also I felt like she had GOOD reads on the game, for example the f8 round calling my bluff on the Wendell decoy. But, the f6 round from a strategic level she should’ve gone after Wendell or Erika over Jacob. I also feel like she kept her options open throughout the game and was approachable. HOWEVER, I feel like she also had no individual agency, but rather guided agency. Never did she approach me with any ideas and only when ideas were brought up to her were they discussed or a possibility with her. Also definitely both the presence at tribal and just in general wasn’t there for Shirin, as Ricard mentioned.

 

Agreed on all points. It was first Tyler, then Wendell she followed? I tried a lot to build trust with her and it never worked, and I tried A LOT. She always relied on people to make moves for her. Like at the merge she always wanted me to just say a name and the couple times I did, she voted with me. But like idk... Like so many times I urged her also like Bret just make a move, let's play together and nothing. She'd sit and ponder. And nothing. Idk. I def wanna hear her pitch tho, lol.

Taylor wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:51:00 am

Lindsey wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:13:02 am

Jay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:54:04 am I will say, I’m more willing to hear Shirin’s pitch than others, she does have some redeeming qualities. First of all, when she was on, she was quite likeable, although probably not as likeable as someone like Wendell. But also I felt like she had GOOD reads on the game, for example the f8 round calling my bluff on the Wendell decoy. But, the f6 round from a strategic level she should’ve gone after Wendell or Erika over Jacob. I also feel like she kept her options open throughout the game and was approachable. HOWEVER, I feel like she also had no individual agency, but rather guided agency. Never did she approach me with any ideas and only when ideas were brought up to her were they discussed or a possibility with her. Also definitely both the presence at tribal and just in general wasn’t there for Shirin, as Ricard mentioned.

 

Agreed on all points. It was first Tyler, then Wendell she followed? I tried a lot to build trust with her and it never worked, and I tried A LOT. She always relied on people to make moves for her. Like at the merge she always wanted me to just say a name and the couple times I did, she voted with me. But like idk... Like so many times I urged her also like Bret just make a move, let's play together and nothing. She'd sit and ponder. And nothing. Idk. I def wanna hear her pitch tho, lol.

Shirin is the only person in the F4 that didn't vote for Hali? That's all she has going for her right now lol . (In all seriousness, I'm heading into a meeting and will get to these threads after work)

Lindsey wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:09:06 am

Tyler wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 12:47:57 am Shirin has been an ally of *mine* since basically day 1, but I have been waiting for her to prove herself as a contender since the day I left. I am emotionally in her corner, as a friend, but as a player and juror, she is not likely to receive my vote unless somehow this “ultimate goat” status was somehow a deliberate strategy from the get… I value my vote as a juror and I want to reward the best player. But we all know that does not *appear* to be Shirin at all…

The Scooby Doo reveal? Lol

Taylor wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:51:00 am

Lindsey wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:13:02 am

Jay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:54:04 am I will say, I’m more willing to hear Shirin’s pitch than others, she does have some redeeming qualities. First of all, when she was on, she was quite likeable, although probably not as likeable as someone like Wendell. But also I felt like she had GOOD reads on the game, for example the f8 round calling my bluff on the Wendell decoy. But, the f6 round from a strategic level she should’ve gone after Wendell or Erika over Jacob. I also feel like she kept her options open throughout the game and was approachable. HOWEVER, I feel like she also had no individual agency, but rather guided agency. Never did she approach me with any ideas and only when ideas were brought up to her were they discussed or a possibility with her. Also definitely both the presence at tribal and just in general wasn’t there for Shirin, as Ricard mentioned.

 

Agreed on all points. It was first Tyler, then Wendell she followed? I tried a lot to build trust with her and it never worked, and I tried A LOT. She always relied on people to make moves for her. Like at the merge she always wanted me to just say a name and the couple times I did, she voted with me. But like idk... Like so many times I urged her also like Bret just make a move, let's play together and nothing. She'd sit and ponder. And nothing. Idk. I def wanna hear her pitch tho, lol.

Shirin is the only person in the F4 that didn't vote for Hali? That's all she has going for her right now lol . (In all seriousness, I'm heading into a meeting and will get to these threads after work)

Shirin was actually very easy to talk too and was relatable.  But, she was so reactive, never proactive, and she’d link to a guy, whether it was Tyler or Wendell, and had no autonomy at all.  She even swore she wasn’t voting me when I would’ve respected her just telling me that I was a threat and she was voting me out.  I like her as a person but she really had no influence on this game at all.

what game?

AM I RIGHT

i thought shirin was nice